Aspects:
Technical
Based on CTrack
Support for using CAD files
- Use VTK
Incorporate AI via ONXX
- Possibility to specify own models
Edge deployment
- CTrack engine model
Niche applications
Sail shape measurement
Camera used as photogrammetric device
- Eliminate motions
Commercial
- CTech as technical partner NOT Reseller
Partnership
- Conditions
- Get leads / projects
- Mutual transfer discounts
Initial step maximized risk at CTech side
- Invest in development
Invest in Xavia device
- How about upgrades / expensive mandatory upgrades ?
Claude
What you can skip:
- Explaining what CTrack does or your technical credibility — he knows
- Formal positioning and "selling" yourself — the trust baseline is already there
- Dancing around sensitive topics — you can be direct
What you can leverage:
- Candid conversation about where Xenomatix actually stands — you can ask directly about their financial runway, what the buy-and-build strategy really means, and whether they're under pressure from investors to show growth
- His honest assessment of the opportunity — does he genuinely see a fit, or is this more exploratory? Former colleagues tend to be straight with each other
- The real story behind the Xavia launch — is it on track, are there issues, what's the actual market reception been?
- His take on the lidar market shakeout — he mentioned in earlier interviews that many lidar companies didn't survive. What's his view on long-term sustainability?
One thing to be careful about:
The personal relationship cuts both ways. Make sure the business terms are properly documented and fair, regardless of the friendship. It's worth being explicit early on: "Filip, we've known each other a long time, which is why I want to be extra clear about expectations on both sides so this works professionally."
How long has it been since you last spoke with him? And do you know if he reached out to you specifically, or did this come through another channel?
The real questions for this call:
- Why now? What's driving the formalization? Is it the Xavia launch, investor pressure to show ecosystem, or genuine strategic vision?
What does "partner" actually mean to them vs. continuing as a contractor?
- More projects guaranteed?
- Co-marketing / joint customer calls?
- Revenue share on solutions vs. hourly billing?
The investment asymmetry you flagged is the key issue:
- You invest in development (your time, opportunity cost)
- You invest in Xavia hardware (cash outlay)
- What's their skin in the game beyond "we'll send you leads"?
- Formalize what you've learned informally — you probably already know their financial health, internal priorities, and where they're headed. The question is whether the partnership terms reflect that reality.
Given you know Alain (CFO) and Johan too, is this call with Filip alone or are the other founders involved in the partnership decision?
After phone call
No direct investment other than Xavia sensor
No direct competition
Their involvement in Coseyn is undefined at the moment, maybe not important
Partnership Exploration - Deep Dive (Dec 2025)
Partnership Overview
Mermaid Code:
mindmap
root((Xenomatix Partnership))
Company
Founded 2012 Leuven
~50 employees
CEO Filip Geuens
€10-22M funding
Buy-and-build strategy
Products
XenoLidar Xavia
20Hz solid-state
AI processing
Sensor fusion
Sept 2025 launch
Applications
Sail shape measurement
Wind turbine blades
Livestock volume
Ship positioning
CTech Role
Technical partner
NOT reseller
CTrack integration
Development investment
Company Research Summary
- Founded: 2012 in Leuven, Belgium
- Size: ~50 employees
- Leadership: Filip Geuens (CEO), Alain (CFO), Johan (co-founder)
- Funding: €10-22M total raised
- Strategy: Buy-and-build approach, survived lidar market shakeout
- Key Product: XenoLidar Xavia (20Hz solid-state, AI processing, Sept 2025 launch)
Technical Architecture
Mermaid Code:
flowchart TD
subgraph Input["Input Sources"]
CAM[Cameras/Photogrammetry]
XAVIA[Xavia Lidar]
TRACKER[Optical Tracker]
end
subgraph CTrack["CTrack Core Engine"]
SYNC[Time Synchronization]
CALIB[Multi-Sensor Calibration]
FUSION[Sensor Fusion]
VTK[VTK Visualization]
ONNX[ONNX AI Models]
end
subgraph Output["Outputs"]
MESH[Dynamic Mesh]
DEFORM[Deformation Maps]
REPORT[Reports/Analytics]
end
CAM --> SYNC
XAVIA --> SYNC
TRACKER --> SYNC
SYNC --> CALIB
CALIB --> FUSION
FUSION --> VTK
FUSION --> ONNX
VTK --> MESH
ONNX --> DEFORM
MESH --> REPORT
DEFORM --> REPORT
Identified Application Domains
1. Racing Sail Shape Measurement
- Challenge: Dynamic deformation at 10-20Hz with boat motion compensation
- Solution: Photogrammetry + lidar fusion, eliminate platform motion via tracker
- Market: America's Cup teams, Olympic sailing programs
2. Wind Turbine Blade Inspection
- Challenge: Large-scale deformation during operation
- Solution: Ground-based or drone-mounted scanning with CAD comparison
- Market: Wind farm operators, blade manufacturers
3. Livestock Volume Measurement
- Challenge: Non-contact weight/health estimation
- Solution: Overhead lidar scanning with AI body condition scoring
- Market: Agricultural tech, livestock management
4. Ship Positioning & Deformation
- Challenge: Hull flex measurement, docking precision
- Solution: Multi-sensor fusion for 6DOF tracking + surface analysis
- Market: Shipyards, port authorities
CTrack Building Blocks (Already Available)
- ✅ VTK visualization pipeline
- ✅ Multi-camera photogrammetry
- ✅ 6DOF tracking algorithms
- ✅ CAD import/comparison
- ✅ Time synchronization framework
- ✅ ONNX runtime integration
Development Needs
- ⬜ Xavia SDK integration
- ⬜ Point cloud to mesh pipeline
- ⬜ Deformation colormap visualization
- ⬜ Motion compensation algorithms
- ⬜ AI model training for specific applications
Strategic Decision Framework
Option A: Integrate into CTrack Core
Pros: Single codebase, leverage existing infrastructure, broader market appeal
Cons: Longer development, complexity increase
Option B: Standalone Application
Pros: Faster to market, dedicated UX per application
Cons: Code duplication, maintenance overhead
Recommendation: Start with core integration, create application-specific "profiles" within CTrack
Investment Analysis
| Item | Cost | Risk |
|---|---|---|
| Xavia sensor | ~€15-25K (estimate) | Hardware depreciation |
| SDK integration | 40-80 dev hours | API changes |
| Application development | 200-400 hours per domain | Market validation |
| AI model training | Variable | Data availability |
Next Steps
- Obtain Xavia sensor and SDK access
- Build proof-of-concept with sail measurement use case
- Validate motion compensation approach
- Define formal partnership terms based on results
Last updated: December 2025 via Claude conversation